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Chacon vs. Chucho Castillo

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Chacon vs. Augie Pantallas

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Chacon vs. Miguel Estrada

Chacon vs. Miguel Mesa
Chacon vs. Bazooka Limon II
Chacon vs. Alexis Arguello
Chacon vs. Bazooka Limon III
Chacon vs. Cornelius Boza Edwards I
Chacon vs. Bazooka Limon IV
Chacon vs. Cornelius Boza Edwards II
Chacon vs. Ray Mancini
Chacon vs. Davey Montana
Chacon vs. Rafael Solis

BOBBY CHACON INTERVIEW

February 1983

Last December 12th in Sacramento, California, 31-year-old Bobby Chacon outgutted southpaw brawler Bazooka Limon to win the WBC junior lightweight title. The wild 15-round shootout, in which both fighters rose from the canvas to finish on their feet, was hailed by many as 1982's fight of the year. If you don't believe in miracles, you aren't familiar with Bobby Chacon.

Chacon, a handsome, amiable Mexican-American who draws fans by the thousands throughout the state of California, could not afford the $5 locker rental when he decided as a teenager to move his fighting from the streetgangs of Los Angeles to the boxing rings. Gifted with natural speed and ring instincts, he was one of the most popular young fighters in the world when he kayoed another young prospect, Danny Lopez, in 1974. One fight and less than four months later, he was a world champion, having knocked out Alfredo Marcano with his booming right hand to capture the WBC featherweight title.

But Chacon was 22 and impetuous. He enjoyed the luxuries of life at the top, and before he could learn the value of the title, he lost it. In 1975, Ruben Olivares stopped a dried out Chacon (who had been weakened by the struggle to drop more than 10 pounds the week before the bout) in two rounds in only his second title defense.

From 1975 to 1981, Chacon's career fluctuated. Several times he considered retirement, often to please his wife, Valorie, who felt he was chasing an unreachable dream. But somehow in his soul, Chacon knew, there was a reason for fighting on.

After being stopped in junior lightweight title fights against Alexis Arguello in 1979 and Comelius Boza-Edwards in 1981, Chacon was thought to be through. He had fought valiantly against Boza-Edwards but didn't have the legs or reflexes to rally in the late rounds. He decided to retire. Those who cared for him could only hope it was a final decision; they knew he had not yet dismissed that elusive dream.

In March, 1982, Valorie Chacon, distraught over her husband's insistence on continuing his career, placed a gun to her head and killed herself. Chacon had a fight scheduled the next day and refused to postpone it. Following a script Hollywood couldn't resist (the movie about Chacon's life will be made later this year). Chacon scored a knockout, fought on, and secured the fateful title shot against Limon. Today, seven years after losing his first title, he is again a world champion.

KO: Do you believe in miracles?

BOBBY CHACON: I'm proof that miracles happen. I believe in a lot of things, and I just kept believing. I never gave up on my beliefs. I think that helped a whole lot.

KO: A lot of people still can't believe teh accomplishment of your winning the title after seven years. At this point, how can you hope even to stage as good a fight or a repeat performance?

BC: Tha'ts not my concern anymore. What it was was winning that title again, proving to myself and stopping the people from saying quit, quit, quit. No, no, I can't quit in peace, you know? I proved it to myself, and I proved it to everybody else, it doesn't matter if they believe it or not. It happened, and I still wake up every now and then and I wonder. I tell myself that I am champion. I have to remind myself, because it has been so long. After I lost to Boza Edwards in 1981,
that's when I really grabbed hold of the fact that it wasn't gonna be given to me like it was in 1974, and I was gonna have to work for this one. So that made me more determined than ever to keep fighting and to do it right. And I finally got it, right, after I lost to Boza-Edwards, and that's why I wanted my wife to give me just one more chance. But she heard about so many chances so many times before. And she gave up this time.

KO: After the Boza fight, in which you fought so gallantly and fell just a little bit short, I spoke to your friend John Wood. He was speaking about your future, and he said he thought you would quit, but he wasn't sure. He said he still felt the dream was there. How close did you come to deciding you had given it your best shot, and you just didn't have it anymore. Did that ever enter your mind?

BC: I didn't come close to it at all. Just because of my wife, I did say maybe, maybe I'll quit. I knew once you start something like boxing when I did at 18 years old, it's part of your life, it's hard to walk away from something when you think you're the best at something, and you haven't accomplished what you wanted. I never gave up the hope of doing it again, and I proved it now. It could have happened sooner maybe. I had a good streak going before my wife died, and that really slowed me down. It almost stopped me.

KO: In your next fight, you'll probably be fighting either Boza or Hector Camacho, or somebody like that. Either one of those guys will probably be favored to beat you. How does that make you feel? Or are you used to being an underdog as you were against Limon.

BC: Well, I'm getting used to the idea now. When I was younger, I was usually favored or even money. But I expect it. They think I'm so old. Like I say, they're not too sure of what . . . of how I want it. And Camacho, being as young as he is and making a big scream, has to be favored no matter who he fights against. And Boza-Edwards, beating me before, he's gotta be favored the second time, too. But I beat Bazooka, and I fought him four times. You learn from the mistakes you made. And I learned from my mistakes with Boza-Edwards. I hurt him in the first round, so I tried to knock him out and I lost everything. Now I don't care if I hurt him in the first round again this time, I'm just gonna keep picking and scoring points. My main concern is to be ahead in the fight, and as the fight wears on and we get closer to the end, then I can work a little harder for a knockout.

KO: How about Camacho? What are your observations of him so far?

BC: Well, he's a talented kid. He can rnove real good on his feet, he looks like he's even starting to learn to punch a little bit, throwing those shorter punches. But he's not the big, stronger puncher, and I'm really not in awe of him at all. In fact, in his last fight, he started to look slower than he had before. He got that lucky punch in, and John Montes was just caught cold. I don't think that would happen to me, getting caught cold like that. I think it would be a good fight. I'd give him a lot of pressure. I could take the punch. I've taken punches before, and I'll make It awfully hard for him to beat me anyway.

KO: A little bit about the Lirnon fight. One writer said to me that he thought it was a great fight, but it was not a great
boxing match. It was purely a brawl, with a lee skill exhibited. How do you react to that?

BC: Well, he must not have a very good eye, because I was missing a lot of punches. On the ropes I was letting him tire himself out. That's boxing. I'm moving around in the ring. When he gets too strong, too hard, I move out. There were a lot of things happening that day I guess he didn't see. As the end came closer, then I was able to put a little more force into my fight. So there was a lot going on. It just depends on the fellow looking at it and how he saw the fight. He saw it different from the way I was fighting it.

KO: How much of that performance, which was such a magnificent performance, do you attribute to physical conditioning, and how much of it do you attribute to the mental preparation that you obviously had?

 BC: Well, I prepared really well for this fight. I was running five miles a day for an hour, a little over five miles. It wsa mostly the conditioning. I was mentally prepared, like I said, after losing to Boza. I knew what I had to do, and I knew I was gonna do it this time. That was just pacing. I burnt myself out last time. I wasn't gonna do that. I was in good shape then, but I just threw too many punches too early and saved nothing for the end. Also in that last fight, I only boxed four rounds in the gym, whereas this time I boxed 10 rounds a day, and the difference was in that my trainer Joe Ponce wasn't with me then. He's the one who got me in shape for this fight. But mentally I was prepared for this fight, for whatever was gonna happen. I knew I could take a punch, and I was willing to accept those things.

KO: Did you ever want to win a fight more than this one?

BC: No, never. I knew in my heart that.... What could I do if I lost this fight? It would most definitely put me out of everything. They'd give up all hope on me. They'd say, "You're right. He should have quit a long time ago." But now, they're all confused. Should he quit? Should he stay? What's gonna happen? I've got them where I want them.

KO: You've fought Limon four times, and I know in the press there's been a lot written and said about the two of you having a grudge with each other. How much of it is a perosnal thing?

BC: Well, it's all personal. I didn't like Bazooka at all. It developed after our second fight, when he was telling people that Bobby was a dirty fighter. To begin with, his big thing was how he beat Bobby Chacon the first time, and he mouthed off and stuff. Even before the fight, they said that I was washed up it would be an easy fight for him.

KO: Did you two do any talking before this fight, or during this fight?

BC: We didn't want to see each other. We skipped each other at the press conference. One time I came early, the other time he came early. We just didn't want to see each other. Not at all.

KO: Have we seen the last of Chacon and Limon, or do you think there might be another one?

BC: No way. I don't want to fight him, because I proved it to him, and he knows it. He doesn't want to fight me anymore, because finally I've given him what I've always wanted to. The first time (a 10 round decision loss) I was completely out of shape. I had just come from two weeks in Hawaii with my wife. Then here comes Bazooka, and he's pretty tough. He was in good condition, he didn't have any boxing ability, but he was rugged and tough that first time. It was a close fight. I got tired after four rounds, and after that I just held on. I came out of that fight bleeding when I urinated, and I had a big lump on my head from getting hit on the top of the head. But he couldn't do nothing with me. The second time (a seven round technical draw), I got set because I knew what happened the first time. And I'm ready to knock him out. He's looking for a place to hide. The referee steps in and gives him a break. I guess he didn't believe what was happening that time. The third time comes along, and again I didn't get set, three or four weeks in the gym is all. And it was a real close decision my way this time. So he's yelling robbery and everything. I was thinking about the second time, when I got robbed. But he's yelling robbery. What do you got to do to win the fight? Do you have to kill the guy? So this fourth time was the one we both wanted. He wanted to prove what a man he was to me, and vice versa. I just always felt that I knew the reason why I lost to him the one time, and I knew that if I got in shape, I would be too much for him to handle. Well this time, the fourth time, he was much tougher than the other two times. I give him credit for that. He is a much better fighter now than he was then.

KO: I remember watching the last five rounds and saying, "Well, now it's Limon's fight," because everyone is used to seeing Limon in the last rounds be the aggressor, and everyone saw you against Boza kind of poop out. When you started coming on, landing body punches, did it seem to you that he was shocked or surprised?

BC: Yeah. It did seem like he was waiting on me. He was waiting for me to get tired in the last rounds, and it never happened. In fact, he was the one who got tired. It was a matter of experience—that I learned from Boza-Edwards—and a matter of me getting in top shape for the fight.

KO: How tired were you in those last five rounds?

BC: Tired? I wasn't. Every now and then in a fight, you get a little fatigued, but then you forget all about it; that's conditioning.  It's not like you have time think about it. You realize that this is a hard fight, I'm a little tired. I did remember thinking that, but I was able to keep going. Throughout the fight I was would get tired, but it never happened.

KO: What was your attitude, and what was the attitude in your corner going into that last round. You couldn't have known who was ahead, because it was really close. And as it turned out, you did need the knockdown.

BC: It's a good thing I didn't listen to the corner. They told me to go out there and take it easy, that I had the fight won. I wasn't in any trouble. I started thinking, "Wait a minute, I've been knocked down twice. That's a lot of points, especially since he's the champion." You never know, there are all kinds of political things going on. Referee-buying and everything. And so I just knew that this is this last round. In all my fights, I've been a last-round fighter. If I was still there, then that's when I tried for the knockout. And I usually got it. This time I came real close. But it was enough to get me the fight.

KO: When the scorecards were read, and you heard you had won, think back. and tell me the first thing that went through your mind.       

BC: Well, even before the scorecards were read, I was wondering why they were reading the cards, because I thought it was a knockout. He was down, the fight was over, so I figured that the fight was over because I won it by knockout And then he's reading the cards, and I'm looking at him and I'm wondering what's going on. I heard the scores. They didn't mention who the cards were in favor of, but they were ahead in my favor by a couple of points. Before they announced me the winner, I started clapping. I knew I won. I didn't realize it was that close. No way did I realize that. It's a good thing that it turned out I was the winner, or else there would have been a riot. And I would have been part of it.

KO: Moving away from the Limon fight, you will never forget, and will always be affected by, your wife's death. A lot of different emotions must have been going through you wher you fought the night after Valorie died.

BC: Oh man, no kidding. I completely broke down after the fight. I couldn't go to sleep before the fight, just thinking about Valorie so much. And then after the fight, I just started crying for a couple of days, like she was there with me or something. I sensed it so much, and I just started crying a whole lot. It really felt good this time, because when she left me the first . . . well, when she died and then came back in my dreams, she was there for about three or four seconds, and in that time said her goodbyes. But this time, she was here for like a couple of days, like she was finally saying goodbye to me the way I wanted to see her say goodbye. It was really a lovely thing. I was crying like hell.

KO: Did you feel any anger toward her, as if you wanted to tell her, "See, you were wrong. You were wrong about me"?

BC: I thought that many times, yeah. I thought that many times. That was exactly what I was thinking. "You should have waited. I told you that I finally got it right." But, it  was such a long time. From '75, when I was champion, to 1980. We had five years of truly nonsense things, and I will always feel bad about my whole life.

KO: Was fighting the day after she died the hardest thing you ever had to do in your life?

BC: Yeah, it was. It was hard. But one thing it did, it kept me together. I know I had something else on my mind that I had to take care of, so it gave me a break from her. My mom called me at just about noon before I was going to the gym and told me that Valorie shot herself. I don't know, I went into a trance or something. I didn't know what to do for about one minute. For about one minute, I was in shock. Then I said, "Wait a minute. I have to fight tomorrow. I've got the kids at home, I've gotta get home and see what happened. I was in camp. I've gotta get home. So I flew home. The car was burnt out, but I drove it home. And she was on the bed . . . I mean next to the bed, and she was just as beautiful as ever, except there was blood right next to her head. They didn't even move her. The gun was right next to her. It was a shocking thing. And then having to fight that night. It helped me some. In fact, I went that same day back to camp and I fought the next day. It wasn't until after the fight was over that I finally got a chance to let it all go, to drain myself. I was crying. Coming back to the kids and them being so great to me. My daughter, 12 years old, gets up on a box and hugs me and says, "Dad, we gotta be strong." That's all I needed. It made me strong. My baby sure didn't have to tell me that. I just gotta pull myself together for these guys, and that's just exactly what I've done.

KO: I know Valorie had expressed her dislike for your continuing to fight, but did you ever, anywhere along the way, think that she had the potential to do what she did?

BC: She kept telling me. I never believed her. No. She kept telling me that she felt old, and that she'd probably be dead by 31. It's a funny thing that I never believed her. She kept telling me about that thing, about death. She started saying that around 1978, and that was already a couple of years after I lost the title. So it already started coming in on her, I guess. But I always tried to talk with her, pull her out of it as much as I could. But with me and boxing, being away in boxing, and her having three babies and being home all the time, she had problems where she never got to communicate with a lot of people. She, in fact, in the last days, in the last year here, she was really alone a lot. She didn't like to go out. It was always quiet here. She read a lot, stuff like that.

KO: So she had no outlet for her emotions.

BC: No. And I was even telling her to go out and get a job. Maybe that would help. And I think that also frustrated her, because she did try and get one, and people turned her down. She couldn't get a job. Getting jobs is hard for everybody, especially for a person that hasn't been working for a long time. So she took it personally, and that also bothered her very much.

KO: Today, Bobby, how do you rationalize her death?

BC: Well, a couple of ways. She wanted to help me. She wanted to help after I lost the title and was then struggling all that time. She wanted to be part of the family and contribute to it. Before she died, she had written a letter to my manager (Joe Ponce), who was also a producer, and told him that this will bring the glory back to Bobby. "My dying will bring something back to him. And maybe they'll make a picture about me," she wrote. "I've got the perfect ending. I'm gonna kill myself with a bullet." And she said, "Please be sure and give Bobby all the money." She wanted to contribute. In this way, we had such a good love. I guess in this way, this was one of the things she wanted to give me. And I admit that it has helped a whole lot. But I hate it. I hate it. I'd rather have her than anything like that. What I feel also is we could have made it anyway together, you know. I was on that road back to the right way. I'd been champion young, and after all those foolish years I was again on the way to . . . you know, I'm thinking right now, I knew what I was in boxing for, and why I was there. I wanted to make money for her. I think we could've made it if she would've waited just a bit more.

KO: If she were still alive, Bobby, how do you think she would have reacted on the day you won the title back?

BC: I know she would have been very, very happy. But it bothered her for me to be champion, because there were people around all the time. Like I said, she was getting away from people, she was afraid of people, and she didn't want that again. That's another reason that she stepped out of the way, because she knew that . . . she must have felt that I was gonna win it again. She said, it would make it easier if she got out of the way, and I think that is what she was talking about, because of all the publicity that goes with it. She couldn't handle it.

KO: Do you feel at this point that th Bobby Chacon story has gone full cycle in a way?

BC: Oh, I know it has. I mean, my childhood isn't even included in the story, but that had a whole lot to do with my life Now going to these days, it's kind of full cycle. For now on, I really feel good about life, and about living. I think that won't make the mistakes that I made when I was younger and didn't realize what the heck I was doing. That involves the meaning of respect and love, and I'll never lose it.

KO: Going back to the first championship, things obviously came a lot easier for you then. You had so much raw talent, you were so quick, and you punched so hard with the right hand. Describe the difference between the Bobby Chacon then and now in the ring.

BC: Back then, it was easier. I ran one or twice a week. I didn't have to do anything for it. It just came so easy. Probably because when I was hungry, at 18 year old, I had learned to dedicate myself so well, with eating and training, and I wanted to be a fighter. And then when got there, and started making the good money, I forgot about having the training, how I got there to begin with. The training, the time in the gym, I even fired Joe Ponce, my manager, at that time. And it was just a state of confusion for me. The difference is the confusion and letting things get in my way, and not thinking about what I have to be doing to maintain that level. So it just got away from me. It just escaped me. That's the difference right there. Because now I know what is, I know what it means,  and I won't let it get away from me. I'll do all the things I've got to do to be in top shape, because fighting is the most important thing right now. There can't be anything else that can get in my way. It has a time and space, and when this time is up, that's it, and it's back into training. And when the fight goes, then we can do it again.

KO: In terms of skills in the ring, I guess with your moves and your reflexes and what you lose in speed, you gain in experience.

BC; Yes, that's it. I was thinking the same thing. My hands haven't slowed down so much. A lot of the power is still there. Well, just because I've been running so much, my legs even feel good. So I'm probably a little slower, but I don't feel much slower. I feel pretty good still. And like you say, having experience gives you a whole lot more.

KO: Describe a little bit of what it was like in the mid-'70s fighting on the West Coast. You were a pretty big hero out there. What was the whole thing like?

BC: Having no money at 17, and going to the gym and having them tell me I needed $5 to start boxing. I was heading out of the gym. I wasn't gonna do that. I couldn't afford it. And then this guy says, "Come with me" and he takes me into this gym and from day one it just was a .. . a shot out of the cannon, and I never stopped until I won that title. Me and Danny (Lopez) boxed in the gym, and they were wars all the time. I was busy all the time. The people didn't know about me, because I was fighting for the Forum, and Danny was fighting at the Olympic all the time. When we fought, they favored Danny because they had seen him more and they hadn't seen me. And then once I beat him, things just took off. They packed the Olympic, and they overflowed into the Sports Arena for my first title defense against Popularo (Jesus) Estrada. And for my second one against Ruben Olivares, they filled the Forum. It was a record gate at that time, so it was just a great ride.

KO: In those days, you made good money, but the kind of money the lighter weight fighters make today, thanks to Sugar Ray Leonard, is really frightening. You're talking about millions. In one fight, you could have made more than you made in a hundred fights. Do you ever think about that?

BC: Yeah. In fact, I usually tell that to the boys who work with me down at the gym. You take care of yourself, and there's a lot of money out there. That's the whole thing. And another thing, if you wait too long, if you can't get your mind together, and you're 25 and you're 26, these are all years you're wasting: Just like I wasted all those years of making money. Those are money-making years, the best years of your life, when you're so young, especially in a game like boxing, where you have to be young. You make more money. You can't be around forever. Maybe you can stay around for a little while, but there's a lot of years you lose. Look at Eusebio Pedroza, who's 30. He's been doing it for about 15 or 16 title defenses, and that gives them an idea of what I'm talking about. While Bobby Chacon had it, was making it, and threw it away, and waited until he was 31. And how many more years has Bobby Chacon got?

KO: Right. Every fight now is one by one.

BC: That's right. I don't want to fight much longer I've been here long enough. I want to get what I can. I would love a $10 million fight like Sugar Ray, but I know there's no hope there. I'd have to stick around for a while and prove myself a little bit, and have somebody else come and do the same thing. I don't want to stay around that long. Especially with all the time I've spent here, 13 years, and the punches I have taken, it's just a matter of time before they start catching up with me. And so I don't want to stay that long. Two, three fights at the most, two or three good fights at the most.

KO: You've been through so many different kinds of fights. Do you feel now as champion that there's really nothing that can happen to you in the ring that you can't handle?

BC: Yeah, that's true. I do feel that way. I'm never in danger. I know that I won't risk anything. I won't be too brave now that I'm champion. I say that and then I fight Bazooka Limon like a madman, so there's no telling what you are going to do in the ring once you're in there. But I only want a few more, a few more good ones, and I'm glad I've come back this far. A lot of people missed Bobby Chacon when he was young. At least I can show a little bit of myself.

KO: There's obviously quite a difference between the days of your growing up as a teenager with no money in the streets, and then all of a sudden—it must have seemed like all of a sudden—you were on top of the world. What were some of the differences?

BC: Well, the differences started when I was playing baseball all my life. And after I found out I wasn't big enough for those type of sports, I joined a gang and I stayed with the gang until I started boxing. I always got in a lot of trouble, because I was that type of kid. I was small, and the gang members just didn't give me any.kind of.respect, but I earned it real quick. Then, as soon as I met Valorie, I left the club, and she introduced me to boxing, and I didn't see the boys for maybe two years. I was busy keeping myself on top. My name was in the paper and everything. All of a sudden, my friends were all back. These are the differences in growing up, between the gangs, and being a working person and making a life for yourself. Then all of a sudden, the gang's back like they'd never been away.

KO: I think every champion goes through that. All of a sudden they have five million friends.

BC: That's what it was. Me not knowing what's going on, I took them back and I joined them. Then, instead of taking care of business at home, I was loose a lot.

KO: A lot of the same people who were around you when you were champion must have disappeared again in the years when you were without the championship.

BC: Yeah. Again, I got my old lifestyle where I didn't have a lot of people around me.

KO: Did you feel that by continuing fighting in the years when Valorie was asking you to stop, starting in 1978, that you were neglecting your marriage or your kids?

BC: At that time, I didn't think about it, but I look back on it and I know that I was. Being busy with boxing and leaving the kids at home with Mama—and like I said, Valorie had a baby in '70, had a baby in '73, and had a baby in '75—you could call that neglect. Not being able to be with her and having the babies running around. She had to take care of the babies. These are things, you just don't realize growing up, and a lot of kids rnake that mistake. I made mine.

KO: Tell me a little bit about your past in terms of boxing..You've fought a lot of great fighters. If you had to pick the best fighter you ever fought and the toughest fight you ever fought, what would they be?

BC: Well, I think the toughest and one of the smartest fighters was Ruben Olivares. He taught me my first lesson in boxing.  I fought him three times, too. And Alexis Arguello was a great fighter - I mean is a great fighter.Danny Lopez would be right after them.

KO: Is it accurate to say that you've been as high and as low emotionally as a man can get?

BC: Yeah. I think so (laughs). I learned a whole lot. With Valorie dying, it taught me a lot things. How to love, respect, and treat people the way they want to be treated. One thing I learned is that when you're with somebody, like your wife, that...what is it, you alwyas hurt the one you love. Well, that's very true. You just don't realize it because you're there with them so much. I think back, and I say, why do I treat her like this, and it was because I loved her to begin with. What attracted me to her, you forget these things. I knew I forgot those things. Those are the things you learn. I've been on the top of the ladder, too. Where I am now, you can say. The first time, it was really crazy, being on top. But this time, it's not crazy. It's business, and I love it.

KO: You must understand the value of the championship better this time.

BC: That's what it is. I understood nothing of it before. And now I just take care, and rub it and pet it. Understand that I do love it, because boxing is just like a wife. That's what Vaiorie hated about it, because it took so much of my time and energy, and I treated . . . no, she thought I treated the boxing world better than I treated her. She said that sometimes. But you have to treat boxing good, because it lives with you. If you don't, it knows.

KO: With the kind of life you've had, you must at this point be a little bit of a philosopher in some ways. Could you share a little bit of your philosophy of life?

BC: You need guidance growing up. One thing that kids think is that they know it all, right? I know my babies are gonna grow up thinking they know everything. If they could get some help along the way, some answers, there ought to be someone there for the kids to give them that help along the road. You've gotta take care of your babies. And then once you get there, what I think it is, is treating other people well, the ones you're closest to. You always hurt the one you love. I think you gotta change that. You should always love the one you love. And give them the most, rather than somebody else, somebody you meet on the street. You get it at home, so you should give it at home. I think the love thing is more important than anything. There's problems all over the world, but you want to forget those problems to a point and bring your happiness into your home and into your own life, and forget about those other trivial things, like war and stuff like that. If the world goes into war and everyone gets killed, there will be no problems. But until that happens, there's gonna be problems in the home. So, in between work and everything, the home is what we have to concentrate on. You've gotta keep it all in balance.  

 

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